tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post2651782560771858850..comments2024-03-09T22:40:48.096+01:00Comments on Toolerable: Learning From OthersBrian Evehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-74055082091217925102014-09-06T20:31:18.949+02:002014-09-06T20:31:18.949+02:00Perhaps it might be fun to do a build with a group...Perhaps it might be fun to do a build with a group of us likeminded bloggers building the same project, but a different blog explaining each successive part of the build? It could be an interesting excersize in different perspectives. Or perhaps a dead simple project where we get to see each woodworker's different take on construction. <br /><br />So much internet, so little time.Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-36467750169646338512014-09-06T00:21:07.950+02:002014-09-06T00:21:07.950+02:00I think the next build off is coagulating around a...I think the next build off is coagulating around a coffee table build off in November (over on twitter) it's going in a more competitive direction IMO, I don't need a coffee table and I don't have a month to give to such a project in November, so I won't be participating this go around. Personally I would have probably chosen a weekend shop appliance/tool or a boxish project.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028867150859768771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-60801768895379820782014-09-05T19:05:07.887+02:002014-09-05T19:05:07.887+02:00I know exactly what you mean about not having your...I know exactly what you mean about not having your own tools and organization. My tool chest was a good idea, but it was essentially just a big box. If I needed a tool from it, I had to empty the whole thing to get at what I wanted. This resulted in my tools being strewn accross the whole shop the whole time I was there.<br /><br />I am pretty sure that Olav didn't mean to disparage amateurs, I think he meant just like you. Think about it - if you are needing to make a profit, and you can get by with a $20 flea market find, that is a much better business decision than a $380 premium tool. If you just love making stuff, the price of the tools is whatever you decide they are.<br /><br />That is a good way to describe what we did as a Jam Session, and the SSBO definitely was a good example. The community build seems to be a cool way to share information and ideas. Classes are great in the fact someone is there to help you build what you went there for. This particular Jam Session was great in that we were able to help each other through some of the parts of this chair. I recommend it wholeheartedly.<br /><br />Perhaps you would like to pick the next project?Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-70233683213640383042014-09-05T18:55:01.165+02:002014-09-05T18:55:01.165+02:00Don't forget minus anyone who knew how to make...Don't forget minus anyone who knew how to make a chair! Too bad you didn't make it.Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-64676661840664831442014-09-05T18:03:50.604+02:002014-09-05T18:03:50.604+02:00Great post regarding working with others, agree wh...Great post regarding working with others, agree wholeheartedly, though there is one place it stinks...when you don't have your own tools and must figure out someone else's "system". That can be frustrating.<br /><br />I suspect that in every trade/hobby, if you (already) know what to do with used equipment you don't need all this new fangled fancy stuff. That said, I must say that there was some fancy stuff made in days gone by as well, infill Norris vs Stanley transitional etc. Sometimes "The Pros" (and amateurs, which isn't always derogatory and based on "love of") buy adequate, and sometimes they get what they want because they use it everyday and just want it, whether it be cameras, guitars, cooking knives, guns, tools etc. I love that we have many options today, though it would be nice if the "tool shaped object" sellers would exit the system, though I suspect there has always been those as well, only our disposable society encourages such practices more today.<br /><br />I hope the Woodworking Jam Sessions (I think the SSBO also sort of qualifies) take off around the world, that would be awesome. Seems like a good way to get some of the benefits of classes, at a lower cost for true newbies, and encourage more woodworking activity in general.Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17028867150859768771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-59580867796511898732014-09-05T16:43:49.644+02:002014-09-05T16:43:49.644+02:00You said it man. That's why an in-person cour...You said it man. That's why an in-person course is way better than DVD. You just did the course for "free" (minus labor and travel expenses!)Snakeyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195680237212594414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-69572655743682394842014-09-05T06:50:33.475+02:002014-09-05T06:50:33.475+02:00Well said.Well said.Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-46441366740840215792014-09-05T06:49:20.241+02:002014-09-05T06:49:20.241+02:00I stand corrected. I guess that's why I try t...I stand corrected. I guess that's why I try to avoid the metric system.<br /><br />That first day where we made seat blanks might not have been so interesting with more people. Indeed, it might have made things go slower.<br /><br />If we do it in the horse stables, it could be an opportunity to try your 'special' red tint!Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-90384496630569151062014-09-05T06:45:57.740+02:002014-09-05T06:45:57.740+02:00That might be a plan!
And you never know, having ...That might be a plan!<br /><br />And you never know, having a lumber mill is pretty freaking cool. You KNOW you want one.Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-62494633512724899672014-09-05T06:44:33.588+02:002014-09-05T06:44:33.588+02:00Wood Brothers. I like it!
And Olav most certainl...Wood Brothers. I like it!<br /><br />And Olav most certainly rocks.Brian Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252174035715635674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-29649366796568726322014-09-04T22:56:08.972+02:002014-09-04T22:56:08.972+02:00" It is important to have a decent tool to le..." It is important to have a decent tool to learn woodworking with. If you don't know what a decent tool can do, how do you know what needs to be done to tune a vintage tool?"<br /><br />This is something I agree with completely and something I've tried to get across many times. Until I used a LN plane, I never knew what a good plane could do. Old tools can be great, but they are not as commonplace as everyone seems to think they are, and any in half decent shape start to have a cost in the ballpark of a new tool. <br />If you can get a quality vintage tool then go for it, but there is also no shame in purchasing a quality new tool. Just remember, a century ago there was no such thing as vintage Stanley planes. All tools were new at some point.<br />Thanks.<br />Bill<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-11151466354203793142014-09-04T22:29:23.922+02:002014-09-04T22:29:23.922+02:00The sliding table on the BMR 900 saw mill is 8.5 m...The sliding table on the BMR 900 saw mill is 8.5 meters long :-)<br /><br />@Aymeric:<br />We actually considered inviting more people, but we wanted to try it out in a small group at first, in case it didn't turn out to be a success.<br />The problem with more people is that each person needs a workbench and I only have one, but luckily Olav had two that he could bring. <br />If we are more people we might have to do it in the stable instead of the workshop :-)<br /><br />Brgds<br />JonasJonas Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07787393233185454227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-31333003510671297602014-09-04T22:20:35.090+02:002014-09-04T22:20:35.090+02:00We could do the next one in the north of France, a...We could do the next one in the north of France, after I moved. There won't be a lumber mill, tho.大魔王https://www.blogger.com/profile/11917310232140415632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591297260116621731.post-42984189082023781492014-09-04T21:17:03.847+02:002014-09-04T21:17:03.847+02:00Nice post Brian!
You guys just started something ...Nice post Brian! <br />You guys just started something big, you know, like a wood brothers thing, you were only 3 but next time it will be 10, I am pretty sure of it!<br />and Olav, if you read me, dude you rock! <br />Congrats again!Aymerichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11444138173834377709noreply@blogger.com